tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post5247237803621523744..comments2024-02-22T13:12:34.770-05:00Comments on Watch the Shepherd: My Thoughts on the Sexualization of the Church (and Other Problems)Virginia Knowleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13851255511747838013noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-25755667052968811162014-11-20T23:22:18.902-05:002014-11-20T23:22:18.902-05:00Thank you so much, Mara! I'll be looking for i...Thank you so much, Mara! I'll be looking for it!Virginia Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13851255511747838013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-44836267722088835182014-11-20T22:00:46.908-05:002014-11-20T22:00:46.908-05:00Virginia, just letting you know that I'm am li...Virginia, just letting you know that I'm am linking to this post on my blog. It will appear tomorrow. I also believe that the sex police have over sexualized the church and portions of the Bible. I'm glad Driscoll is no longer taken seriously. But I'm sorry that some of his doctrine still is.Mara Reidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16385458933795539928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-63843889297622745252014-04-23T09:15:11.147-04:002014-04-23T09:15:11.147-04:00Ivan, I just now saw this comment! Thanks for wri...Ivan, I just now saw this comment! Thanks for writing! I agree with you!Virginia Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13851255511747838013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-74583261616708662062014-02-04T10:01:09.184-05:002014-02-04T10:01:09.184-05:00Virginia,
Thank you for this insightful and illumi...Virginia,<br />Thank you for this insightful and illuminating article. I feel your heartfelt intentions and the confusion that comes across with the mix messages that is given out from the pulpit and in real life. It's funny, I have always believed that the pupil and real life is one of the same. That God would not want us to compromise ourselves to "play" the role of pastor, elder, consel, and/or advocate without a transcending consistency. Not to say those in leadership need to be sinless, but they do need to be "real" person. I mean real, approachable, humble, honesty with their feels, and most importantly safe. Isn't that what Jesus was? <br /><br />Unfortunately, we are copying the media frenzy pop culture one hit wonders, mixed with our evangelical obsession with sex, and it sets in motion these very immature "stupid" get togethers of sexual discovery. I for one get embarrassed by the infantile approach of how we approach sex. Even more so, when a pastor deems a authority and displays his wife (as if she really condones this behavior) to position His perspective as the right one. Using God to built up your personal brand is so in fashion today. For me I'm sick of these God Brands, that use our Jesus as a product than the savior who came here on earth for us. Keep up the good work that God has moved you to do. ivansolerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11744087456014841876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-16936040530080781022012-12-29T20:05:04.215-05:002012-12-29T20:05:04.215-05:00WOW! Good Stuff Virginia!
What you said needs to...WOW! Good Stuff Virginia!<br /><br />What you said needs to be heard!<br /><br />I was reading about a recent lawsuit decision about a women that go fired due to employer being to attracted to her, and his wife was threatened. Considering what I read about the case - she should have left before any of the rest happened. He would have made anyone uncomfortable, and I don't understand how she couldn't have been.<br /><br />He was the lawsuit, but sadly I do believe his wife was the loser in that case. I prayed that got some help, because their focus was all wrong. She wasn't the biggest threat - his attitude was. She will always have to worry about him if they don't address it. Sadly - this viewpoint that I felt in those news articles needs to be addressed. The woman fired seems to be the sole target within the Christian Realm. LOL! Sorry if that was a bit off topic!Hannah Thomashttp://www.eaandfaith.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-51696658994357946792012-08-10T10:19:50.315-04:002012-08-10T10:19:50.315-04:00Thank you, Monax. I recognize your screen name as...Thank you, Monax. I recognize your screen name as a commenter on Julie Anne's blog! It's good to hear your perspective.Virginia Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13851255511747838013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-50175194304562128312012-08-10T10:17:08.662-04:002012-08-10T10:17:08.662-04:00Thank you, found cousin! Yes, I remember you sent ...Thank you, found cousin! Yes, I remember you sent "Do Cry" with an explanation--but, of course, I understand better now your personal context. I am honored once again.Dan Christensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16740401781583478874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-35756509786833106422012-08-09T23:43:38.532-04:002012-08-09T23:43:38.532-04:00I stand up and applaud you!
Lots of good and wis...I stand up and applaud you! <br /><br />Lots of good and wise advice Virginia, thank you.<br /><br />. .<br /><br />As a single man in my thirties I worked with pre-schoolers in the church nursery. I really loved those kids, and they loved me back. We learned and experienced a lot together. Most of their parents knew me and trusted me with their children’s lives. On more than one occasion the other nursery adult would disappear for awhile when I was with the children. I remember strongly emphasizing to the women who headed up the nursery to <b>never</b> let that happen again. Never leave me, never leave an adult alone with children. Especially a man, goodness, the stigma male care givers still have in this society. Not that the children needed protection from me, but I needed protection from ever the appearance of an impropriety.<br /><br />Btw, Tim and Kathy Keller give three outstanding talks on <a href="http://sermons.redeemer.com/store/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=18303" rel="nofollow">Sex, Singleness and Marriage</a>. <br /><br />(( i plan to repost this at ja'blog ))monaxhttp://www.spiritualauthority.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-51170649586412634632012-08-09T18:20:30.862-04:002012-08-09T18:20:30.862-04:00Thanks for the kind words, Dan. I'll try to wa...Thanks for the kind words, Dan. I'll try to watch the video clips later. I can't remember if told you that besides the incident I mentioned in this article, my poem "Do Cry" was also inspired by your essay "Crying Shame." :-) It's good to be your cousin and friend!Virginia Knowleshttp://www.virginiaknowles.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1131455314616817615.post-11247764208897243572012-08-09T17:17:20.343-04:002012-08-09T17:17:20.343-04:00Very well put, Virginia. You have treated this top...Very well put, Virginia. You have treated this topic honestly but sensitively--just as it should be done in church settings. We bring a vulnerability about our feelings to church so communication should be tailored to that. We could certainly use more direct, accurate information on sexuality in my church. Unfortunately, the indirect reinforcement of male dominance is slow to face. <br /><br />I once had the urge to flee the chapel. A lay member, retired FBI, took it upon himself to read an op-ed piece from a major newspaper criticizing Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction during Super Bowl halftime. The crassness of a hard-edged journalist was so out-of-place during worship service and, more crucial, sent a hateful, shaming message about women's bodies. Certainly nothing Jesus would do.<br /><br />Speaking you-probably-wouldn't-present-this-in-church, the following movie follows sexual development from the perspective of boys in a 1960s Catholic school (inaccurate info abounds!) I only recommend this because the priest's chastity lecture struck a nerve with me--a lot like the maturation talk the principal gave us in 6th grade. A while back I found the scene in one piece on Youtube but it's spread over the end of Part 5 and beginning of Part 6 here. To miss some objectionable language, advance Part 5 to 7:00 minutes in.<br /><br />Part 5<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GCfM6h8Zqw&feature=relmfu<br />(the first dance with the girls' school begins 7:00 minutes into part 5)<br /><br />Part 6<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZn51daVQWw&feature=relmfuDan Christensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16740401781583478874noreply@blogger.com